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Posted: Saturday, December 10, 2011 6:00 pm

So what will it be, real jobs, real infrastructure improvements, expanded trade with Canada and more energy for America, or will it be political obstruction of the highest order to satisfy the country’s extreme green wing?

Unfortunately, the Obama administration has chosen the latter, digging in on a decision to delay permitting for construction of the Keystone XL pipeline in the United States until after the 2012 election.

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          • Let there be truth posted at 9:26 pm on Fri, Dec 23, 2011.

            Let there be truth Posts: 409

            mooseberryinn posted at 12:45 pm on Mon, Dec 19, 2011-Got a great idea -(states the moron)

            If property owners protesting these big oil companies out there in eastern Mt, Wyoming, Nebraska etc over enviro issues and the proposed eminent domain takeover of private property and Native American lands by foreign multinational corporations,etc. are deemed in your mind as an OWS terrorist threat to our economy, you can always 'love it or leave it'!
            I promise that my reindeer will drop a few berries on your Inn as we fly over tomorrow evening.

          • mooseberryinn posted at 12:45 pm on Mon, Dec 19, 2011.

            mooseberryinn Posts: 2697

            Got a great idea - Have the OWS folks get out there in eastern Mt, Wyoming, Nebraska etc. RIGHT NOW to "protest" these oil companies, and/or enviro issues etc. Maybe they'll spend the winter out there in their tents. As for obama putting off any decision until after the elections in 2012, why not just impeach him now and save the economy that much sooner.

          • Rob123 posted at 5:32 am on Fri, Dec 16, 2011.

            Rob123 Posts: 6606

            P.S. RussCrowder.....and why were these two, very separate issues bundled together? Is this the new way to Legislate now that Ear Marks are no longer 'Cool'? And why should the XL Pipeline be placed on a Payroll Tax Issue and NOT on a Millionaire-Bush Tax Cut- issue, if one is to bundle and obfuscate issues?

            I'm all for the pipeline, if it matters to you. It would certainly help our Balance of Payments as we begin to seriously export Refined Product and LNG to Latin America.

            It's the Bundling of Issues and the Sleaze Level of Washington Politics that causes me Le Nausea.

          • Rob123 posted at 3:27 am on Fri, Dec 16, 2011.

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            RussCrowder posted at 12:25 pm on Thu, Dec 15, 2011.

            Well, RussCrowder, I was being facetious.....you know, a little 'ha-ha' in the land of Flathead Republicanism and the Holy Trickle Down theory of Economics. And you?

          • Oldhoss posted at 4:58 pm on Thu, Dec 15, 2011.

            Oldhoss Posts: 40


          • RussCrowder posted at 12:25 pm on Thu, Dec 15, 2011.

            RussCrowder Posts: 414

            Rob123 has a point...They should bundle the approval of the pipeline with punishing people making over a million bucks...I'm thinking their property should be seized and re-distributed to the "collective" as seen fit by the government. If they complain they need to be re-educated in special camps set up for that purpose by the government so they will come to appreciate their Social responsibilities. Perhaps there will be room in Gitmo, when all the misunderstood Muslim's presently being inhumanely detained are released to return to the Middle East to enjoy the new "Arab Spring". Good idea there Rob.

          • mooseberryinn posted at 12:52 pm on Tue, Dec 13, 2011.

            mooseberryinn Posts: 2697

            And from the latest news..... obama continues to be a moron. no surprise there.

          • mooseberryinn posted at 8:52 am on Mon, Dec 12, 2011.

            mooseberryinn Posts: 2697

            Hey, that's really swell and/or peachy. Too bad all those "married" folks can't go work on the pipeline. That would be even better for the 'economic stimulus"

          • jennydoe posted at 7:46 am on Mon, Dec 12, 2011.

            jennydoe Posts: 2198

            Iowa at least has found a new form of income.....

            WASHINGTON -- The legalization of marriage equality in Iowa created a miniature economic stimulus, according to a new study.

            A study by the California-based Williams Institute found that wedding arrangements and tourism by same-sex couples and their wedding guests added between $12 and $13 million to the Iowa economy in 2009 and 2010. The study released Wednesday also reported that the increased spending on weddings likely added between $850,000 and $930,000 in tax revenue.

            According to the Iowa data, there were at least 2,099 same-sex weddings in the year following the decision to legalize marriage equality in April 2009. Of these couples, over half came from other states to wed in Iowa. The study estimates that out-of-state couples account for about $2.2 million of the spending.

            "The Williams Institute report demonstrates once again that marriage equality has had, and continues to have, only a positive impact on our state," Troy Price, executive director of the pro-marriage equality group One Iowa, said in a statement.

            "Our opponents continue to try and take away marriage equality and erase the financial impact that marriage has on our communities and our state," Price continued. "But it begs the question -- at a time when people are looking for work and every Iowan is hoping for stronger economic growth, why would we pass a discriminatory constitutional amendment that would hurt not only loving and committed gay and lesbian couples, but our fragile economy as well?"

            The new report was issued at request of Iowa State Sen. Matt McCoy (D), who was formerly on the board of One Iowa.

            Same-sex marriage in Iowa was legalized in April 2009, when the state's Supreme Court found a law limiting marriage to a man and a woman to be unconstitutional.

            The new law has been a frequent target of conservative groups. In February, the Iowa House of Representatives advanced a bill that would create a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage. State Senate Majority Leader Michael Gronstal (D) has said that he will block further debate on the issue.

            In response to claims that the ruling would destroy traditional marriage, IowaWatch.org conducted a study in 2010 exploring gay marriages in the state. The study found that same-sex marriages bore many resemblances to heterosexual ones, and that the year after gay marriage was legalized, Iowa had its lowest divorce rates in decades.

            Iowa's same-sex marriage rights have also come up in the GOP presidential primary as candidates prepare for the state's caucuses next month. In an interview with Fox News, Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) stated that Iowa citizens did not want same-sex marriage.

            "Marriage, historically, for all human history has been between a man and a woman. It hasn't been the same-sex marriage," she said. "And remember that in Iowa, it was judges that made the decision -- not the legislature, which are the people's representatives, and certainly, not the people."

            Several candidates, including Bachmann, Texas Gov. Rick Perry and former Sen. Rick Santorum (R-Pa.), have signed a pledge against same-sex marriage written by the Family Leader, a conservative Iowa group that opposes gay marriage.

            The Family Leader did not return a request for comment.

          • mooseberryinn posted at 6:46 am on Mon, Dec 12, 2011.

            mooseberryinn Posts: 2697

            BUT - What if there is a leak? What if there is an explosion? What if some enviro-wackos attack the pipeline with truck bombs in an effort to prove it's not safe? We really need to get back to bicycles and/or walking with little trundle carts to keep the groceries moving. Can't use horses because they got gas. (and stuff like that). Besides, the Chinese manage with little trundle carts. Ya know, obama is probably thinking all them little carts will put lots of folks back to work. yeah, that's it! That's why we don't need the pipeline.

          • Rob123 posted at 4:44 am on Mon, Dec 12, 2011.

            Rob123 Posts: 6606

            In the great bundling of projects on the Legislative Calendar, why can't they bundle the approval of the pipeline to an increase in tax rates for people making over a Million dollars a year in Salary? Lets keep it simple and to the point.

          • karinramos posted at 10:36 pm on Sat, Dec 10, 2011.

            karinramos Posts: 1

            However, we should expect further worsening on joblessness in the country in the next quarter because of political anxieties in the Middle East, check out an article called High Speed Universities for relation between a degree and job and the pay rate.