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Posted: Sunday, February 20, 2011 2:00 am | Updated: 12:23 pm, Tue Apr 22, 2014.

I will not be voting in favor of the Kalispell Public Schools building reserve levy.

In short, I do not believe that the Board of Trustees have been prudent with the funds they have already been allocated.

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          Welcome to the discussion.


          • misterb posted at 5:32 am on Mon, Mar 14, 2011.

            misterb Posts: 52

            Like jumping to conclusions do we? My adjective fits.....you especially.

          • Ohplease posted at 2:10 pm on Sat, Mar 12, 2011.

            Ohplease Posts: 3

            Right on misterb!!!!!!!!! Everyone knows teachers make way less than anybody else...anywhere. Wait a minute, I guess that's not exactly correct. Oh well.....It's always worked before. So lets just go with that. And who cares if the public school system in the US produces a inferior product? The public is forced to buy it, so what does it matter. Blaming teachers for not teaching our children is just wrong. That's like blaming your mechanic because the car you paid him to repair ......ISN'T. Okay, maybe that's a bad example, I'll try again. It's like blaming the carpenter when your house falls down...........that's no good either.. Sorry misterb. I got nothin'. you're on your own......................and probably underpaid to boot

          • misterb posted at 5:33 am on Sat, Mar 12, 2011.

            misterb Posts: 52

            Quit picking on and blaming the teachers for this bullshlt morons.

          • jeancalvinus posted at 10:06 am on Thu, Mar 10, 2011.

            jeancalvinus Posts: 327

            Outstanding letter. here's to hoping the levy fails miserably, that will be the only way the teachers and administrators get the point: THE WELL IS DRY!

          • sro posted at 5:47 pm on Sat, Mar 5, 2011.

            sro Posts: 5

            right on Grant.

          • mom posted at 11:10 am on Sat, Mar 5, 2011.

            mom Posts: 628

            Last year our business almost went bankrupt due to a forty percent drop in consumer spending at that location. An SBA has kept it alive for the time being.
            So we had to lay off help permanently. And close a store. And quit our health insurance. Luckily we qualified for HMK for the children.
            If we had a house payment we would have lost our home. As it was we were close to eviction, thanks pawn shops for helping us month to month. We don't have any toys any more, but who can afford to play?

            The only school board member I know lives in a very affluent neighborhood AND is building an awesome new lake home but GOOD FOR HIM, he can afford it. He can also afford higher taxes.

            I can't vote for any more improvements to schools. Or raises for staff. I can't afford to. I don't get any improvements in my life, or any raises. Why should they?

          • Montana-mtn-man posted at 7:19 am on Fri, Mar 4, 2011.

            Montana-mtn-man Posts: 34

            http://teachersunionexposed.com/unionDetail.cfm?tin=810169635 . The Montana Education association/montana Federation Of Teachers total income for the 2008 Tax Period was $ 6,187,741. You don't think unions are bad? They are the BIGGEST BULLY in the SCHOOL!! Unions steal the hard earned money from us the tax payer. You teachers who keep saying its all about the kids, pull your head out of your bungie holie and stand up for theses kids for once in your life! Money spent on the unions would sure go along way to help our kids...................... who is the smart one here, the teachers or the unions?

          • sharpening posted at 1:51 pm on Mon, Feb 28, 2011.

            sharpening Posts: 4

            Remember our kids are our future! I love the statistics that show the highest SAT scores in the nation come from the states (ND, SD) where kids come from homes & families that are intact. It does not matter how much $$$ is spent per school district per child-example Washington D.C.(lots of $ spent per child, families not intact, low SAT test scores.) As parents we have the responsibility of doing our part for our children.
            Please equip our Administration, teachers and staff to teach our children to the best of their abilities.
            Thank you teachers for caring about our children - your students. Our kids thrive when they are challenged beyond basic fundamentals.
            Hopefully Kalispell Montana schools will be a place of higher standards and work ethic to be passed along for generations to come.

          • libra42 posted at 10:45 pm on Thu, Feb 24, 2011.

            libra42 Posts: 461

            I think all of these comments are good. It's easy to fall into the, "He makes more than me and works less" line of thinking, but there's more to the problem than that. There's something not right with the educational system we have in place and I think we all know it. It makes one wonder if the government should have a roll in the education of our children. The bond between the union and government is not healthy and at the end of the day, is unproductive. There needs to be a system where superior teachers are more in demand and consequently earn more money, just like professionals in the private sector do. The argument is not about trying to get teachers and administrators to do more for less money. It's our money that's being spent and it just seems we could spend it better and get more bang for the buck.

          • MrMark posted at 10:46 pm on Mon, Feb 21, 2011.

            MrMark Posts: 356

            MfgMan, well stated. And there in lies the rub. The administration. Grant, thank you for your thoughts. Exactly what I and many residents are going through. The problem, aside from the administration, is the unions. Teachers need to make more money to pay the fricken unions! The time for unions is over. They served their purpose. Unions are leaches and need to be dismantled. If we keep saying no, the unions don't get more money, or if they do, it's at the cost of the teachers, who maybe will get fed up and say no like the brave teachers in Wisconsin! The administration is being bought by the union. We must not cave to the gun-at-our-heads politics that the bought off administration wants to shove down our throats! Keep saying no and close down the unions! Unions are destroying America! (Yeah, I know. I sound like one of those, don't I?) Think about. Don't just read this column! Google! Find out what's going on! OPEN YOUR EYES! I'm really surprised that we don't have more voices here! There are some really strong voices out there who should be posting here! I call on all of you to speak up!

          • MfgMan posted at 9:57 am on Mon, Feb 21, 2011.

            MfgMan Posts: 343

            I thought the letter was well written, and while I applaud the use of data to substantiate one’s point, the issue of how much teachers work and earn relative to others is such a slippery slope that it’s often better left out of the discussion. For example, Screen Name is mostly likely counting his hours coaching 3 teams, so is that relevant? Probably not. At the end of the day, teachers are better educated than the average person, and surely log a lot more hours on evenings and weekends than people realize. But they do get summers off, and that is not something to be looked upon lightly. Personally, I’d like to see teachers paid even more IF what they earned could be tied to performance. In the US, we spend 4X per student in real dollars today than we did 50 years ago. Teachers aren’t getting rich, so where is the money going? My guess is administration and legal fees / consultants, etc.

          • krispistofferson posted at 5:39 am on Mon, Feb 21, 2011.

            krispistofferson Posts: 265

            I agree, your school board likely hasn't been prudent with funds. You see, your school boards and your administration make up this nice little "boys club" that is likely out of touch with what is really happening in their buildings. As Screen Name says though, to say teachers are over paid is ludicrous. If you thought it was such a lucrative profession, you could have gotten a teaching degree you know!

          • Screen Name posted at 6:36 pm on Sun, Feb 20, 2011.

            Screen Name Posts: 1


            While your letter appears to have been well thought out and researched, your comparison between the public and private sectors is highly inaccurate. Your assumption that educators work 70 fewer days and year and have an average salary of $51,195 annually is preposterous. First of all let me tell you I am a teacher in the KPS. In light of this recent "teachers make too much money" era, I have started logging every hour I work throughout the school year. As a teacher and coaching three sports I still make roughly $12,000 less a year than your statistical average teacher. Last year I worked 2171 hours in nine and a half months, a full time private sector employee works 2080 hours a year prior to overtime, but apparently I work 70 days less. Not to mention the time during the summer which is spent taking course work to maintain my certification. I love the profession I have chosen, and have no problem with the salary I earn (I knew I would scrape by as a teacher when I became one) but to read an editorial telling me how little I work and how much I make is beyond absurd.