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Posted: Saturday, December 14, 2013 9:00 pm

I learned much from the Daily Inter Lake’s “Make a joyful noise ....” series of letters and columns last Sunday. In fact, one can cut the expressions of Christian peace, love, understanding and tolerance emanating from those pages with a knife.

I was particularly moved by words and phrases such as “Gerry Stearns and Richard Wackrow need a ticket to North Korea” by Rita Boese of Bigfork; and “go jump,” “too dense to understand plain English,” “bigoted, stupid, moronic, and just plain blind” and “idiots” (used three times) by Doug Adams of Whitefish.

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          5 comments:

          • CMartel2 posted at 11:05 pm on Wed, Dec 18, 2013.

            CMartel2 Posts: 17

            "As a practicing Catholic I am embarrassed for the Kalispell Schools for there endorcement of one religious faith over all others."

            Which faith? There are a multitude of faiths represented here. You have Mormons, various Protestants, Catholics. You really consider these people of the same faith? And why is that embarrassing? If a religious faith is to be the central reason behind the existence of an individual, is that something your bury away from an environment in which children spend the majority of their waking day? And moreover, you ban voluntary participation in such an event?

            "This is offensive to those people who are of a different faith or are non-believers"

            Why? You have a problem with people celebrating something important to them? What is it against the central beliefs of others is it that you so detest?

            Please don't use the Constitution as a means of backing your belief. The First Amendment never even applied to the public schools in this nation until 1925, and at that point, only tenuously. Go read the first sentence of the First Amendment and tell me "Congress" came to represent public schools in Montana. For well over 100-years, it never even occurred to most individuals or to our courts.

             
          • commonview posted at 10:48 pm on Sun, Dec 15, 2013.

            commonview Posts: 13

            At last review Mr. Wackrow and Ms. Stearns were, well, a couple. Readers may wish to consider their separate letters as coming from the same address and cooked from the same cookbook. It appears like Mr. Wackrow is frequently complaining about something or other. On this issue I find their position of intolerance to be narrow-minded. Too many people fail to accept that our schools are reflective of our population so naturally there are going to be influences in the schools that reflect society as a whole. This is the way it should be and I don't find this threatening. It is a learning experience for every kid in school, parent, etc. Religion certainly has served and continues to serve a participation in our moral compass individually and as a society. Sure, there have been times when some have let their religions get in the way of how we need to be repectful of others beliefs. Review of some Interlake ads shows Richard Wackrow to be an atheist. That's fine. But not being a religious person myself I find the Wackrow/Stearns position as offensive as other, more religious people, may find them. I am more of an agnostic since I have to consider there isn't really anyone who holds the keys to the truth. That said, I don't rule it out and always want to keep an oar in the water on the path to heaven, if there is one. I'm thinking Richard Wackrow may have some doubts of his own beliefs considering that toward the end of his letter he does "Thank God"! (Read his letter. You'll see.) Merry Christmas Mr. Wackrow!

             
          • mooseberryinn posted at 5:34 pm on Sun, Dec 15, 2013.

            mooseberryinn Posts: 2689

            Really? I haven't heard of any "enforcement" concerning any religion at all. Now, if you mean celebrating Christmas well, this country and virtually all of Europe, Scandinavia, South America, ...well you get the idea. This has been going on for many many years. It's a tradition. A happy tradition, and just why would it be that we should suddenly stop, or limit expressions of this tradition? As for religious flavor/ Ya sure you betcha, Jesus was born. So, ya see, some folks are just celebrating his birthday. We don't need to ban birthdays do we? OK, the choir.... ya see, centuries of extraordinary music was composed to celebrate his birthday. Do we ban singing these songs? Nah, I don't think so. And ya know what else? I really don't think I need to apologize for appreciating the music, the choirs, and/or the celebrations. If some folks have problems with that, well, too bad. stay home.[beam]

             
          • flyfish posted at 10:49 pm on Sat, Dec 14, 2013.

            flyfish Posts: 199

            As a practicing Catholic I am embarrassed for the Kalispell Schools for there endorcement of one religious faith over all others. Public schools have no business taking part in any type of religious ceremony. This is offensive to those people who are of a different faith or are non-believers. I fully applaud Whitefish for the way they handled this as it seperated the schools from what appears to be compulsory attendance by all members of the school chior. Kalispell has had a major problem with religion in its schools for some time now, and it appears as though it is fully endorsed by Superintendent Darlene Schottle and the Kalispell School Board. It is my feeling that the only thing that is going to bring back a seperation of Church and State in the public schools of Kalispell is a very large finacial hit aginst the district for violating a students religious freedoms. When that happens the districts insurance company will then fix the problem and if the district doesn't like it they will lose their coverage.

             
          • mooseberryinn posted at 8:59 pm on Sat, Dec 14, 2013.

            mooseberryinn Posts: 2689

            So glad to hear you are pleased and happy. [lol]