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Posted: Thursday, February 7, 2013 10:00 pm

State Rep. Jerry O’Neil, R-Columbia Falls, is sponsoring a bill that would change state law to allow firearms to be stored in locked vehicles on school properties.

The legislation was partly prompted by the near-expulsion of a Columbia Falls High School student in 2010.

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          • Chemis-G posted at 7:29 am on Mon, Feb 11, 2013.

            Chemis-G Posts: 6

            House Bill 384 "... prevents districts from disciplining students for fake weapons, such as shaping their hands into pretend guns." WHAT?? Do the people, trustees, administration, and staff, who operate our Montana schools have no common sense what-so-ever? Expelling a student for shaping hands to look like a gun is a rather ridiculous stretch of common sense.

            I have heard of the dreaded bracelet gun charm that is cause for a one year expulsion. Then we have the infamous water pistol that could easily result in expulsion for a year.

            Perhaps the people to whom we entrust our school children should be required to pass a Prerequisite Common Sense Evaluation (PCSE - pic-see) before being entrusted with the wellbeing, safety, and education of our children. Do you know that shaping ones hand into the form of a gun is also the way to manually display the number six. I guess a person who lacks the ability to talk could be expelled for communicating the number six on campus.

            I used to believe those to whom we entrust our children's education, pretty much had Montana horse sense. It was that way when I was growing up. However, I now recognize how little common sense many of our acting school administrators seem to have.

            The treatment of the Columbia Falls 16 year old female honor student is a prefect example where common sense did not prevail without a torrent of support from citizens all over Montana for her and disgust for the administrative decisions made against her. She is the best example why H.B. 384 is so sorely needed.

          • dawnco posted at 9:33 pm on Fri, Feb 8, 2013.

            dawnco Posts: 32

            Gun control only applies to the law abiding citizens. The criminals that want to commit these terrible crimes will continue to commit them. There is nothing wrong with this bill and it is nice to see someone fighting for the majority of Montana.

          • lifewontwait4u posted at 3:29 pm on Fri, Feb 8, 2013.

            lifewontwait4u Posts: 8

            First off being allowed to have guns in your vehicle while locked at school should be allowed..there is no difference from it being locked on school premises or down the road off of it..any looney that wants to do physical damage will gain access to a gun or any other type of instrument that will inflict harm whether it be a knife or a bomb...or whatever..we cant stop stupid but we can protect ourselves from stupid..most people already carry firearms in there car as is anyways..face it guns will always exist and so will crazy people..crazy ppl will use anything..i prefer to use something effective for self defense not my hands in front of my face. Also even if there were gun bans or whatever all this political crap is it wouldn't stop a criminal from using it. Drugs are illegal..did that help? uhh noo .all it does is take away defense for law abiding citizens to not be able to protect themselves...

          • donho posted at 3:18 pm on Fri, Feb 8, 2013.

            donho Posts: 191

            jt, is this your self admisson of being a whacko, or just a loonie toon? Why not inform the reading ppublic whcih one you reall are, so that we can continue laughng at you and your commnens!

          • Partyer posted at 2:32 pm on Fri, Feb 8, 2013.

            Partyer Posts: 685

            To begin with, I don't consider a locked vehicle to be secure gun storage. Not even close. That shouldn't be legal anywhere. My idea of gun control includes how a weapon is stored, and when, how, and why it should be anywhere but inside a locked vault.

          • JT posted at 12:35 pm on Fri, Feb 8, 2013.

            JT Posts: 209

            Donho, I had to comment to congratulate you on the most rubbish bit of writing I've had the misfortune of reading in a long time. You are the whole package my friend: irrational ideology, rambling thought process and abysmal sentence structure. Thanks for that.

            Oh, and I support this legislation.

            I know what you remind me of...reading the label on Doctor Bronner's soap!


            Admit it. You looked at that pdf and laughed.

          • donho posted at 10:41 am on Fri, Feb 8, 2013.

            donho Posts: 191

            Between this nut case ONeil and the his "bro" nut case groopie moosedroppings, the obvious need and the desperate installation of mental health and institutions to combat the faliures and complete break down of society and its sometimes elected individuals, and their mentaly disabled supporters, is for the most part, one of the first and formost legaslative programs for the health and security of our schools, state and nation! Just by reading and viewing the comments by some real whackos that guns should be allowed in locked cars, now how much evalaluaiton and study does it take to realize thoughts and expressions of action from those whackos and loonie toons, that are as much as a threat to common sense and mankind as guns in the wrong and mentaly disabled students or whacko sdysfunctional individuals can be!

          • DJJackson posted at 9:55 am on Fri, Feb 8, 2013.

            DJJackson Posts: 739

            "This O'Neil guy just gets nuttier by the day! Who voted for this guy anyway??"

            The answer is obvious Michael, the majority of his constituents in his district did, they like his positions and voted in the majority for him.

            Anyone that paid just a small amount of attention in Civics class would understand this.


          • michael posted at 9:18 am on Fri, Feb 8, 2013.

            michael Posts: 546

            This O'Neil guy just gets nuttier by the day! Who voted for this guy anyway??

          • rmf posted at 9:11 am on Fri, Feb 8, 2013.

            rmf Posts: 11

            Maybe Mr. O'Neil should go talk to people in the Lewistown community about how they feel about guns at school? An angry teenager with access to guns...that sounds like a good combination!
            I'm sure his next bill is for corporal punishment and flogging in schools!
            Who voted for this clown!

          • mooseberryinn posted at 9:06 am on Fri, Feb 8, 2013.

            mooseberryinn Posts: 2697

            Oh No! This simply will not do. We cannot have such a simple solution. This sort of thinking is not allowed. Per King Obama's "distraction theory of political strategies", such a clearly worded, and practical solutions will not be allowed. There must be a mistake here!


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