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Posted: Friday, April 5, 2013 10:00 pm

HELENA — A legislative standoff over a missing Democratic senator boiled over with Republicans reconvening the floor session and resuming business while Democrats pounded their desks in protest. 

Republicans allege that Sen. Shannon Augare’s absence Friday was a ruse to kill GOP ballot measures. Friday was the deadline for ballot referendums and tax bills. 

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          • realrepub posted at 5:32 pm on Tue, Apr 9, 2013.

            realrepub Posts: 16

            Hey averagejoe. Can it be that, "whoever wins the Republican primary will win the general election", is because in Flathead County, all the Democrat's can field for candidates are a bunch of left wing nut jobs? The best you Democrat's have been able to do in years was the one-term wonder, J.B., and the taxpayers are still trying to dig themselves out from that disaster. By the way Russ, good call. That Democracy sure worked well when a majority of two on the county commission voted to deny the property rights of all in the Whitefish Doughnut area, didn't it.

          • debbietant posted at 7:39 am on Tue, Apr 9, 2013.

            debbietant Posts: 42

            Until you can get rid of his lacky help like the Lapp's and Ray Thompson's money, your not going to get rid of Russ Crowder's American nightmare. He and his radical right wing property owners will continue to control EVERYTHING in the county and there is nothing we can do about it.

          • RussCrowder posted at 7:29 am on Tue, Apr 9, 2013.

            RussCrowder Posts: 414

            Actually averaragejoe, Republicans don't love mob rule (democracy). What part of "Republic...an" don't you understand. P.S. Get with the program. Russ already controls the entire state the way he does Flathead County.

          • RIGHTOFCENTER posted at 12:37 pm on Sat, Apr 6, 2013.

            RIGHTOFCENTER Posts: 181

            The last "so called" moderate Republican we had was Gary Hall. You remember him averagejoe don't you? He's the guy that teamed up with your hero Joe "the 3 million dollar man" Brenneman and cost the citizens of Flathead County 3 million dollars because they couldn't follow the law on that Northshore fiasco.

            If you read the fairgrounds audit report when Jay Scott was Fair Manager, the auditor concluded that the management of the fairgrounds (i.e. Jay Scott) was not capable of running the fairgrounds properly. The last thing we need is Jay Scott who is another moderate like Gary Hall.

          • averagejoe posted at 11:39 am on Sat, Apr 6, 2013.

            averagejoe Posts: 253

            If Russ had his way American Dream Montana would control the entire state the way it does Flathead county. This is why they want to get rid of third party candidates and same day voter registration. In Flathead county whoever wins the Republican primary will win the general election. A case in point is Gary Krueger, he squeeked out a primary win over some moderates even though he has extremely radical right wing views. He only needed to get a small percentage of the primary votes to win because there were 9 names on the ballot. Once he secured the party nomination he had the election in hand. Had Jay Scott or some other moderate Republican run against him as an independent the vote would have been split and all bets would be off as to who would have won. By eliminating third party candidates the extreme right will be able to control Montana politics even though they only represent about 10% of the states voters. The next move they will attempt is to get rid of popular votes for US Senate and go back to legislature appointment . They can't win Montana's Senate seats in open elections so they will go back to the days of William Clark handing out money to state representatives in the Capital's lobby. Republicans just love Democracy don't they.

          • ZipTie posted at 10:14 am on Sat, Apr 6, 2013.

            ZipTie Posts: 8

            Good for the Republicans for standing up to the bullies on the playground!

            The Dems have always needed a babysitter to monitor their temper tantrums and yesterday's tantrum proves it. I wonder if Bullock is enjoying his new role as professional babysitter to the Dems.

          • RussCrowder posted at 10:03 am on Sat, Apr 6, 2013.

            RussCrowder Posts: 414

            There is very little to argue with concerning any of the comments made here. GoDawgs, this is what our first Vice-President John Adams referred to as , "the poison of Party", when he saw the beginning of the rise of political party's during George Washington's first term as President. He considered political party's to be the: "greatest threat to the new Republic".

            Independent thinker is absolutely correct when he points fingers at the Republican Party as well. Much of the socialist utopia Obama and his Administration seem to be aiming for, has it's roots in the policy's of former "Republican" administrations. "One can dream, right? Many of us that value freedom share your dream.

            Having said this, one really needs to look closely at the policy's of the present Administration with an eye toward where this will all lead. Hint...Hint...Take a look at German history from January 30, 1933 to June 30, 1934. This is the period when a former WW1 German army corporal became Chancellor of Germany and consolidated "ALL" political and governmental power into his hands. How that was done is strikingly similar to many of the things we see happening with the "Executive" branch of the Federal Government today!

            Finally: A Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court without the backbone to defend the United States Constitution against Federal usurpations, regardless of the political Party responsible.....How scary is that?

          • ettubutte posted at 9:38 am on Sat, Apr 6, 2013.

            ettubutte Posts: 7

            The Republicans started it. It was all about same-day voter registration. The Republicans do not want it anymore, it makes it too easy for voters to vote. They want to make it very hard, or impossible to vote. So without any chance at all of allowing Montanans to speak out about same-day voter registration they demanded an immediate vote on the Bill. Democrats protested. They wanted a chance to speak out loud about the Bill, and were still denied.

            Anybody that would deny you the chance to speak out loud about a vote in the Montana Senate would deny you the right to vote at all. And that, my fellow Montanans, is what those dirty dog Republicans were trying to do, They were trying to Deny Montanans the right to vote. The dirty dogs! You should ALL be ashamed of yourselves. You know who you are..

          • Independentthinkermt posted at 9:15 am on Sat, Apr 6, 2013.

            Independentthinkermt Posts: 395

            The ends justify the means. Hmm, kinda like the G.O.P.'s war in Iraq? My how short your "conservative" memories are. Both parties should be abolished. One can dream, right?

          • GoDawgs posted at 8:09 am on Sat, Apr 6, 2013.

            GoDawgs Posts: 109

            No, actually, this kind of behavior has been going on for over a century by Dems and GOP alike. I am in the midst of reading 'Team of Rivals' ('Lincoln' movie based on this book). This sort of gerrymandering was happening then as well by Copperheads and rival political factions. Luckily, our President Lincoln knew how to properly position his rivals and let them work to his advantage. He was brilliant. You can't blame this kind of 'mob rule' on Obama's administration. The GOP can look just as silly. In fact, neither party gets much REALLY important accomplished.

          • RussCrowder posted at 7:40 am on Sat, Apr 6, 2013.

            RussCrowder Posts: 414

            You nailed it moose. Mob rule is the new Democrat way, and that is right out of the White House and their "Justice" Department...Why do you think Chief Justice Roberts was afraid to rule against Obamacare? Could it be that he realized that this administration would just ignore the ruling? Could it be that he realized this would expose the impotence of the judiciary, even the U.S. Supreme Court, when confronted by this new Democrat led "Executive" tyranny? Could it be that Justice Roberts feared the consequences once the people realized that they have lost the protection of the rule of law when confronted by this new form of dictatorial Federalism now in the hands of the "Mob"?

            Yes, the new rule of the day is indeed, "the end justify's the means". But, isn't that what the mob voted for last November?

          • mooseberryinn posted at 11:02 pm on Fri, Apr 5, 2013.

            mooseberryinn Posts: 2693

            It appears with Communists and Democrats," the ends justify the means". Just like the Wisconsin behavior. Now just guess where they learned this tactic? Who else - King Obama's regime.


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