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Posted: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 10:00 pm | Updated: 12:37 pm, Thu Apr 17, 2014.

A draft cell phone ban for drivers drew mixed responses from Kalispell City Council members at their work session Monday.

But after some final adjustments, the proposed ordinance is expected to be put to a formal vote in coming weeks, as requested by council member Randy Kenyon.

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          Welcome to the discussion.

          14 comments:

          • photoguy posted at 9:24 am on Thu, Nov 29, 2012.

            photoguy Posts: 940

            MrLaffs,

            I agree with you 100%, if people would only realize the danger they are putting themselves as well as others. Many now a days thinks driving is a right, as I stated on another story and you on this story, it is a privilege. No one has a right to drive.

             
          • MrLaffs posted at 8:00 pm on Wed, Nov 28, 2012.

            MrLaffs Posts: 158

            Most of you anti-government ranters seem to have forgotten that you do not have a right to drive. You have to earn the privalege to drive on the streets in the form of a drivers license, which requires you to follow RULES (known as traffic LAWS) to keep the rest of us safe. Sadly, most of you need these laws to guide you since you lack even a modicum of common sense. And no, I don't use my cell phone EVER while I am driving. I don't read while driving and I don't eat or play with the stereo while driving. I know that driving requires my full concentration and I give it my undivided attention. That may seem to be giving up too much "freedom" to the man, but it makes me a safer driver. All of this seems a moot point since I was rear ended by a drunk teenage girl who was on her phone and didn't even slow down as she crashed into me. She didn't break any cell phone laws, but she did considerable damage by being distracted while driving. It seems that common sense isn't really that common, hence the need for laws and fines to at least sway some of the brain dead "drivers" into making a safer choice.

             
          • cuzican posted at 3:52 pm on Wed, Nov 28, 2012.

            cuzican Posts: 231

            As a person that has been T-boned by a dummy that ran a red light while he was flapping his gums on a cell phone, I have mixed feelings on these bans. I have seen and dealt with the results of a retard that thinks his car is a phone booth.
            On the other hand I have a big problem with being told what to do while inside my own property (my vehicle). On the other hand nobody has the right to put other lives in harms way.

            Not really ever feeling the need myself to fiddle with my phone in my car I really don't care one way or the other.

             
          • photoguy posted at 12:53 pm on Wed, Nov 28, 2012.

            photoguy Posts: 940

            They have done it will seat belts, air bags and host of other "Safety" items, I don't see them not doing it with cell phones. Under the guise of safety, we get a whole bunch of stuff from the Government!

             
          • photoguy posted at 12:51 pm on Wed, Nov 28, 2012.

            photoguy Posts: 940

            Moose,

            In reality, I think you will see a time in the near future that the government mandates that there be cell phone blockers in all new cars, that can be deactivated if a demonstrated need is shown. With this national tide welling up, I don't see it going away anytime soon.

             
          • mooseberryinn posted at 8:34 am on Wed, Nov 28, 2012.

            mooseberryinn Posts: 2680

            Hey! I got it! a brand spankin' new idea! Yup, it'll save us all! yes, indeedy. instead of the air bag in the steering wheel, there's got to be a little camera and microphone to catch the driver being distracted. Then pow out pops a boxing glove on one of those expanding thingies, and smacks him/her right in the kisser! At the same time, the radio/stereo (whatever) shouts hysterically; "pay attention Ya flamin' idiot"! Yup, that's just what we need. Quick call GM,Ford etc.

             
          • mooseberryinn posted at 8:05 am on Wed, Nov 28, 2012.

            mooseberryinn Posts: 2680

            Yup, the "public" is just waaaaaay too stupid to survive. We gotta save 'em! yes we do! Outlaw, ban, prohibit, any activity that may distract from a driver's ability to concentrate on driving. Now, that would include: (apparently) - Talking (any talking to anyone by any means). Reading - now that would have to include roadsigns - yes indeedy, very distracting. Eating - ya just kin never tell, when ya might drop a hot fry down yer shirt ya know. No more burgers for you there buddy. Well gotta include smoking - might get ash in yer eyeball, drop the fire on yer pants etc. Coffee, tea, pop, water, can't have any of that ya know. Now, here's one that's not been mentioned - sex! that's got to be the most unsafe thing to do while driving! Yeeehaaaaaaw! and pow right into a tree. Yup, gotta have a really big and all inclusive law 'cause we're just way too dumb to take care of ourselves.

             
          • slinkman69 posted at 7:49 am on Wed, Nov 28, 2012.

            slinkman69 Posts: 1

            I definately understand the need for the cellphone ban. And support it whole heartedly, and "YES" it is distracted driving and it should be stopped by ALL including the Police Officers that we all have seen do it as well as everyone else. Every day I drive around town seeing KPD, FCSO, MHP officers doing the same exact thing. I've also been told that "they" are allowed to because they have Offensive driving skills training, so their radio, computer, and "YES" their cellphones aren't distracting. If you believe that then I've got some swampland in Alaska I can sell you too. We all just need to use common sense while driving and make the RIGHT CHOICE. "THE PHONE CALL OR TEXT CAN WAIT.

             
          • Flovilla posted at 7:49 am on Wed, Nov 28, 2012.

            Flovilla Posts: 296

            What is scary to me is the ban excludes the very people given the power to enforce the law.

             
          • Howard Samuel posted at 6:59 am on Wed, Nov 28, 2012.

            Howard Samuel Posts: 3

            Could we also make a law banning the holding of a burning stick while driving? Also known as smoking? Maybe while we're at it ban eating or drinking of anything while driving?

            We don't need new laws we need enforcement of current laws!! If a police officer sees someone driving recklessly while also chatting or texting on their phone then they can already be cited for reckless driving or something of that type of offense.

             
          • MontanaTrace posted at 4:14 am on Wed, Nov 28, 2012.

            MontanaTrace Posts: 334

            First ask, who is hurt by this new law? Practically every city council across America is facing making the same decision. Same arguments, same conclusions. By 2014, 97% will have enacted cell phone usage while driving laws. Texting and dialing kill and injure innocent people for life. It's too bad we need a law but the public has become addicted and can't control itself. Maybe now, we'll pull over, after we've been pulled over. The only group hurt by these new laws are in the wheelchair sales business.

             
          • Rebel Rouser posted at 12:45 am on Wed, Nov 28, 2012.

            Rebel Rouser Posts: 1563

            This is just another tax on Kalispell citizens, and/or anyone in the city of Kalispell, and it is being done for YOUR protection!! Everyone seems to enjoy blaming the loss of freedom on Obama, however, city government is the most aggressive abuser of over legislating and taxing it's citizens, and you "neery heer a peep!" against what they are doing! Do we really need MORE LAWS???? MORE TAXES????

             
          • Red Green posted at 12:30 am on Wed, Nov 28, 2012.

            Red Green Posts: 207

            @808, I agree to a point. Unfortunately it is NOT just the actions of a FEW persons. Clearly a major percentage of the motoring public feel it is appropriate and harmless to drive while talking, texting, reading, applying makeup, etc...etc...

            In the past year I've witnessed two young people die before my eyes....both the result of distracted driving. I've had at least six near accidents where the other driver was on their cell phone and witnessed countless other "stupid driving stunts" because the driver was talking or texting.

            My nature is to always look for another way besides more laws and more enforcement, but in this case, the public's sense of righteousness to use their phones and drive seems to demand a more forceful approach. Everybody seems to think that they are immune to the distraction or that they can get away with it. That's going to be of little consolation when you hear that thud, feel that bump and then realize you just mowed down a kid in a crosswalk.

            The law needs to be BROAD and be inclusive of all distracted driving. Municipalities and states need to stop being so focused on the cell phone. The research and data are clear: It's the conversation---not the device--- that is the distraction. So exempting hands-free devices is very poor management of the problem.

            808, if you're not talking, texting or.... while driving, then you needn't lose any sleep over laws that affect those who do. On the flip-side, if such laws change the behavior of motorists and one of your loved ones escapes injury, or worse, then maybe you'll consider the added law a boon.

            On September 30, 2010, two year old Anna Brulotte was safely crossing the street with her mother and siblings in an active school zone, holding her mother's hand. A car that was stopped for the family was rear-ended by a speeding car that had drifted out of its lane, forcing the stopped car into Anna and her mother. Anna died instantly. The car that caused the crash was driven by a distracted teen driver who was looking through a backpack, listening to loud music, and had other teen passengers in the car.

             
          • 808sun posted at 11:09 pm on Tue, Nov 27, 2012.

            808sun Posts: 25

            Im not condoning texting and driving but there has to be a point where we have to use common sense & not some b.s. law or goverment for cosmetic fixes. Hands free- well then, close all restaurant drive thru windows, those cheeseburgers distract & prevent a person from paying attention to driving! Oh ya and make up,as we have all seen women putting on as they drive. Wait and then theres reading, ive seen a few doing that too. But since a few person actions dictate for the majority Make all of it against the law! Ridiculous right?

             

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